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Post by Kinseth on 21/6/2010, 13:59

Your trying to get it popular. Thats great!

to populate a rotation server tho, you gotta start with the basic, core maps. Gold Rush, Dustbown, 2 Fort, etc.

Custom maps rock and shit but dont put them there yet. I know that at least when I play*ed* tf2, I looked by map name. I sorted it that way and found the map I wanted with the number of people I wanted. I sometimes went by players. But I didnt go to maps I didnt know.

My point here is that I love custom maps but I also know 90% of them suck and I wont try them unless im already on the server when it switches.

So you wanna populate the server, I suggest you go without custom maps and then insert them one at a time once the server has a decent number of people.

Pulp is at its core an orange clan. You cannot count on a large portion of the clan frequenting a rotation server. It may happen, but dont count on it. You need fresh meat for this server and this is how I think it should be done.
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Post by Eraserhead on 21/6/2010, 14:04

Yes i was thinking about that too. I noticed people leave the server when a custom map has to be downloaded. We can revert to the stockmaps for now and add one each time to the mapcycle.

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Post by jameless on 21/6/2010, 14:09

Yes please.

I think this goes back to what I was referring to when I mentioned Cashworks. I enjoy the map but the server almost always empties when it comes on.
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Post by Nick on 21/6/2010, 14:13

I think we should only have the most popular valve maps on the server such as badlands granary and maybe some others, this way lots of people will come because people like these maps more than most
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Post by Eraserhead on 21/6/2010, 14:21

Im gonna keep this here for archive purposes:

cp_gravelpit
cp_dustbowl
cp_granary
cp_well
cp_freight_final1
cp_steel
ctf_well
cp_badlands
pl_goldrush
cp_fastlane
ctf_turbine
cp_gullywash
pl_badwater
plr_pipeline
cp_gorge
Ctf_PowerPlant_Final
pl_hoodoo_final
koth_sawmill
cp_yukon_final
koth_viaduct
ctf_sawmill
ctf_doublecross
koth_nucleus
cp_redfort
cp_warpath2
cp_lazytown_lazyday
ctf_convoy
pl_cashworks_rc2
pl_frontier
cp_waste
ctf_mach4
pl_swiftwater

I have removed all the custom maps now and set freight as the default server startup map.

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Post by Nick on 21/6/2010, 15:26

this is still to many maps, try to get it down to 5-10 maps
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Post by Eraserhead on 21/6/2010, 15:52

ok which ones will we remove from this list:

cp_gravelpit
cp_dustbowl
cp_granary
cp_well
cp_freight_final1
cp_steel
ctf_well
cp_badlands
pl_goldrush
cp_fastlane
ctf_turbine
pl_badwater
plr_pipeline
cp_gorge
pl_hoodoo_final
koth_sawmill
cp_yukon_final
koth_viaduct
ctf_sawmill
ctf_doublecross
koth_nucleus

I never see people vote for hoodoo, gorge or pipeline although i think those are great maps.

Doublecross and yukon are not popular either.


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Post by ninji on 21/6/2010, 15:56

Eraserhead wrote:ok which ones will we remove from this list:

cp_gravelpit
cp_dustbowl
cp_granary
cp_well
cp_freight_final1
cp_steel
ctf_well
cp_badlands
pl_goldrush
cp_fastlane
ctf_turbine
pl_badwater
plr_pipeline
cp_gorge
pl_hoodoo_final
koth_sawmill
cp_yukon_final
koth_viaduct
ctf_sawmill
ctf_doublecross
koth_nucleus
I like Well, but many people don't.
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Post by vladmirbsl69 on 21/6/2010, 15:57

koth maps, double cross, sawmill, and steel, well. those are a few for me i guess and i like well but same reason as the one above me is why it shouldnt be on here.
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Post by Nick on 21/6/2010, 15:58

Eraserhead wrote:ok which ones will we remove from this list:

cp_gravelpit
cp_dustbowl
cp_granary
cp_well
cp_freight_final1
cp_steel
ctf_well
cp_badlands
pl_goldrush
cp_fastlane
ctf_turbine
pl_badwater
plr_pipeline
cp_gorge
pl_hoodoo_final
koth_sawmill
cp_yukon_final
koth_viaduct
ctf_sawmill
ctf_doublecross
koth_nucleus

I know it looks like a took a lot off, but this way it can be called CP Rotation, and it only has the most popular rotation maps on it
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Post by ninji on 21/6/2010, 16:00

Chuck wrote:
Eraserhead wrote:ok which ones will we remove from this list:

cp_gravelpit
cp_dustbowl
cp_granary
cp_well
cp_freight_final1
cp_steel
ctf_well
cp_badlands
pl_goldrush
cp_fastlane
ctf_turbine
pl_badwater
plr_pipeline
cp_gorge
pl_hoodoo_final
koth_sawmill
cp_yukon_final
koth_viaduct
ctf_sawmill
ctf_doublecross
koth_nucleus

I know it looks like a took a lot off, but this way it can be called CP Rotation, and it only has the most popular rotation maps on it
People really like Doublecross, Badwater, Turbine and Goldrush. We could go by your list, but those four need to be reinstated.
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Post by vladmirbsl69 on 21/6/2010, 16:01

i hate double cross but its for the good of pulp so lets do it!
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Post by Eraserhead on 21/6/2010, 16:09

Eraserhead wrote:ok which ones will we remove from this list:

I never see people vote for hoodoo, gorge or pipeline although i think those are great maps.

Doublecross and yukon are not popular either.

This is what i have seen on our server, about the TF2 community in general i can say this is the top10:

http://tf2stats.net/map/

1 valve map (or included in official release) ctf_​2fort
2 valve map (or included in official release) pl_​goldrush
3 valve map (or included in official release) cp_​dustbowl
4 valve map (or included in official release) pl_​badwater
5 achievement_​idle
6 valve map (or included in official release) ctf_​doublecross
7 valve map (or included in official release) cp_​badlands
8 valve map (or included in official release) ctf_​turbine
9 valve map (or included in official release) pl_​hoodoo_​final
10 valve map (or included in official release) cp_​egypt_​final

So doublecross should stay indeed and maybe add 2fort and egypt?

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Post by ninji on 21/6/2010, 16:12

Eraserhead wrote:
Eraserhead wrote:ok which ones will we remove from this list:

I never see people vote for hoodoo, gorge or pipeline although i think those are great maps.

Doublecross and yukon are not popular either.

This is what i have seen on our server, about the TF2 community in general i can say this is the top10:

http://tf2stats.net/map/

1 valve map (or included in official release) ctf_​2fort
2 valve map (or included in official release) pl_​goldrush
3 valve map (or included in official release) cp_​dustbowl
4 valve map (or included in official release) pl_​badwater
5 achievement_​idle
6 valve map (or included in official release) ctf_​doublecross
7 valve map (or included in official release) cp_​badlands
8 valve map (or included in official release) ctf_​turbine
9 valve map (or included in official release) pl_​hoodoo_​final
10 valve map (or included in official release) cp_​egypt_​final

So doublecross should stay indeed and maybe add 2fort and egypt?
LEAVE OUT 2FORT FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

There are a billion 24/7 2fort servers, and you would be surprised at the number of players who hate that map. Personally, I am quite tired of 2fort, and I think it should be left out in the final rotation.
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Post by Eraserhead on 21/6/2010, 16:15

That's why i removed from rotation since the start but some people said they liked it.

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Post by hyce777 on 21/6/2010, 17:29

cp_gravelpit
cp_dustbowl
cp_granary
cp_well
cp_freight_final1
cp_steel
ctf_well
cp_badlands
pl_goldrush
cp_fastlane
ctf_turbine
pl_badwater
plr_pipeline
cp_gorge
pl_hoodoo_final
koth_sawmill
cp_yukon_final
koth_viaduct
ctf_sawmill
ctf_doublecross
koth_nucleus


13 maps. I like this list. KOTH doesn't tend to work well for long periods of time.

As for changing to custom maps on a server, or just changing the map in general, I ask the people (experiences from CGMZ). I personally hate the whole deal of the server changing maps after X rounds, etc. I like to ask the players if they want to change maps, and get some suggestions. I then will throw up a vote, or be bias and pick my favorite map. I also tell and make sure the people know that they are going to a custom map that may take a while to download. The result of this, is usually 95%-100% of the players come through to continue playing.
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Post by Lord Zurkov on 21/6/2010, 17:35

I found the trains on Freight to be rather lulzy, but I suppose they could get annoying...
Eraserhead wrote:That's why i removed from rotation since the start but some people said they liked it.
But it's not a control-point map. If you find a cp_2fort it might be worth adding.
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Post by Eraserhead on 20/8/2010, 14:25

I'm going to revive this thread again because we are discussing the rotation server again.

I have stated in another topic:
-we have mapratings. Simple fact when looking at the results of maps that got at least 50 votes is that Hightower, Badwater, Coldfront, Turbine, Granary, Upward, Gravelpit, Thundermountain, Badlands, Gorge, Goldrush, Nucleus, Egypt and Freight are the most popular maps on our rotation server so far (in this order).

I think we should try out these maps more to get a proper rating of them:

ctf_sawmill, koth_sawmill, koth_viaduct, cp_steel, pl_hoodoo_final, cp_yukon_final, cp_fastlane, ctf_well

These are all stockmaps and have been played on a very little on our server. If we play on the rotation server try to keep these maps in mind when you type 'nominate' in chat or change the map.

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