cp_orange_epps [Current state: Released]

by **Epps** 13/8/2010, 06:36

DOWNLOAD:
http://www.mediafire.com/?ayv50v8odolw0u9 (4.4MB)

About cp_orange_epps:
My personal goal for this map is to learn how to use Hammer properly but also to create a more balanced version of Orange_x3. As we all know the original one is just too sniper, wrangler and natasha-spam friendly which has caused us to limit snipers and bodyshots.

I build this map from scratch, using only the outlay and basic sizes of the original orange_x3 to guide me around. Of course I did not follow it pixel by pixel and I did added new features, like a house on CP2/CP4, spawn rooms and a new spawn exit which should make it easier to take back CP2/CP4 once captured by the enemy.

Deadline:
Friday 20th of August.

Current state:
Released

Stuff left to do:
Wait for complaints.

Update posts (also found later in this thread):
Fri 13th of august

Spoiler:

Sat 15th of August

Spoiler:

Sun 16th of August

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Mon 17th of August

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by **Vital** 13/8/2010, 07:09

The map doesn't lag me, dunno what it is till me and eraser test it out a bit more.

by **Nick** 13/8/2010, 09:41

I like it but i wanna see some different wall textures on there

by **Epps** 13/8/2010, 09:49

Chuck wrote:I like it but i wanna see some different wall textures on there

Sgt Pepper wrote:Anyway it is about 65% finished, I still need to finish the RED side, make CP2 less sniper-friendly, add anti snipefest stuff in general (without ripping Tendo off) and add both textures and props so it doesn't look as fugly as it does atm. Also, secret room(s).

Reading is fun \(n.n)/

Also, by accident I made the red side less wide >.< Guess that's what happens when you map on an empty stomach all day XD

by **Nick** 13/8/2010, 10:27

Sorry Peppers, I saw spoilers, no man can resist not reading an entire thread to go straight to the spoilers.

by **Epps** 13/8/2010, 15:02

Okay since CP2 is always being abused by snipers I want to remake CP2 entirely in a less sniper friendly way. Anyway, so far I came up with two valid options:

Option one: a roofless building.

Spoiler:

Option two: higher wall thingy.

Spoiler:

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Anyway, any recommendations on which one I should put into the map? Personally I prefer the roofless building but I dont want to lose to much of the orange_x3 look. iDunno, ideas?

by **hyce777** 13/8/2010, 16:05

Building is cool and original. Never seen that done, go with that.

Also, add LIGHTING, please. Do you know how? or shall I link you to a tutorial?

by **Nick** 13/8/2010, 16:24

hyce777 wrote:Building is cool and original. Never seen that done, go with that.

Also, add LIGHTING, please. Do you know how? or shall I link you to a tutorial?

building, not original
one without ceilings... now thats good use that one

by **Furgus** 13/8/2010, 16:26

Well I was looking at my map and messing around with the textures. IN my opinion, I would also mess around with your textures to see what fits better. Because that look like old orange.

by **hyce777** 13/8/2010, 17:47

Chuck wrote:
hyce777 wrote:Building is cool and original. Never seen that done, go with that.

Also, add LIGHTING, please. Do you know how? or shall I link you to a tutorial?

building, not original
one without ceilings... now thats good use that one

I meant for CP2. I've never played an orange with a building there.

by Havik 13/8/2010, 18:13

Epps, FU! Now Vital nor I can snipe from cp2 XD

by **LOOK IT'S ADAM!!!** 13/8/2010, 18:29

AAAAGGGHH fullbright!!

by **hyce777** 13/8/2010, 20:23

LOOK IT'S ADAM!!! wrote:AAAAGGGHH fullbright!!

by **Nick** 13/8/2010, 20:44

is that the female pyro skin i see? ^^

by **Epps** 14/8/2010, 05:00

Update: notice

Okay I have decided to go with the roofless building. For those wondering why I will make it roofless here's the reason. I feel that a closed building with just two ground entrances is WAY to easy to defend. I mean, insert two engineers with sentries, add a spychecker to the mix and voila; 30 minutes of pure camping. With a nearly open roof buildings can be taken out from multiple angles making it harder to camp which applies to both teams.
Anyway this means all here is left to do is creating some anti-snipe things/obstructions and finishing my super special awesome secret room. Ow, and lighting if it isn't too difficult.

Havik wrote:Epps, FU! Now Vital nor I can snipe from cp2 XD

That's exactly why I wanted to redesign it. I simply cant stand CP2 snipers and if my skills allowed it I would instant kill CP2 snipers on my map while displaying the message 'NO NOOBS ALLOWED!' Razz

LOOK IT'S ADAM!!! wrote:AAAAGGGHH fullbright!!

Yeah sorry, my first map, remember? Anyway it's not like I will release it as it is now (maybe a playtest once I get CP2/CP4 ready). As for the lighting, unless it proves being to difficult to do proper I will look into that. Luckily for me I am a fast learner when it comes to Hammer n.n

Chuck wrote:is that the female pyro skin i see? ^^

Yes it is, makes me rage less when I get killed by a skillless backburner pyro xD I also use the female Medic by the way, will include her in the next round of screenshots Wink

by **LOOK IT'S ADAM!!!** 14/8/2010, 11:33

as for lighting, a single light_environment will do it, just make it point the direction you want your sun to shine.

by **Epps** 14/8/2010, 20:23

New wip screenies! notice

Well it has been a while since I posted the first round of screenshots so allow me to post some new ones from how the map is atm. Again the map is wip and not textured yet except for some minor parts. Also I just added the the light_environment so some parts can look quite dark in these screenshots which I will of course try to fix.

Spawn area

Spoiler:

CP2 and CP4 (very wip!)

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Way to the tower and the tower

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Finally, I noticed some flaws which I will fix. No biggy, just some resizing/moving around. Pretty sure I will have a playable version by Wednesday depending on how easy the anti sniping methods are. Ow well, cheers and if you have some ideas feel free to post them!

by **Nick** 14/8/2010, 20:25

looks good but no female medic...

by **Young Greezy** 14/8/2010, 21:33

Needs more anti sniper in middle-ish area!

by **Furgus** 15/8/2010, 10:32

That is really good. Also, try and add like a backround out side of the map. So it won't look empty. Like a couple of trees, and buildings. Just so it won't look plain. And maybe use some red and blue textures. to make it more alive. But really good job.

by **Epps** 15/8/2010, 11:43

I didn't do a lot today, mostly because its my lazy day off and because I am heading over to my sis' in like... 10 seconds from now. Anyway the little I did do was making my hidden room. I have big plans for it which I will keep for myself until it's finished. Also the only way into it is by a hidden door which can only be opened with the use command which is unusable in tf2 by default. Why? Well let's just say I don't want to spoil the game too much :p

Chuck wrote:looks good but no female medic...

Spoiler:

Better?

Young Greezy wrote:Needs more anti sniper in middle-ish area!

I know, just not sure what kind. Not want to rip off Tendo either so yeah :/

Furgus wrote:That is really good. Also, try and add like a backround out side of the map. So it won't look empty. Like a couple of trees, and buildings. Just so it won't look plain. And maybe use some red and blue textures. to make it more alive. But really good job.

Aw thanks.

by **Nicobbq** 15/8/2010, 11:51

No! Don't add scenery. I don't want my computer to lag.

by **Furgus** 15/8/2010, 12:11

Well, we are not talking about to much scenery but just enough. Like I was thinking we could add the fence like the normal orange_x3 has and a couple of trees. You would create a ground level behind the spawn area and add like 3 trees and a building. It would be a lot better. Most of the orange maps that are plain and simple are not much played in. A little scenery would make it more alive.

Pepper you should look at this map. You don't want to go as far as this map's backround scenery. It's like another world outside of the map.
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by **miht** 15/8/2010, 12:32

mm for the house on ppoint 2s. could u make the windows able to be climbed in?

by **Furgus** 15/8/2010, 13:18

If this happens you might have to make the house a little bigger. Maybe make the house taller and add a second layer of windows up top, and big enough to rocket jump up there. maybe even put a step there so we could stay there and shoot or something.

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