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Post by Nicobbq on 8/2/2010, 21:35

Hey everyone, as you may know, I am playing TF2 on a laptop.
Laptops are generally not made for gaming and mine is no exception.
I couldnt play stock maps but I recently changed my configs and now
my framerate on stock maps is the same as orange maps. This is
awesome!

Right click on TF2 in steam and go to properties then launch options and type this : -dxlevel 81
After the first launch, you just have to go back to the launch options, you will not need it anymore.

After that put everything on "LOW" and put your the aliasing thing to "Billinear" (in the advanced video options)

It helped me a lot. Hope it helps you!
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Post by Epps on 9/2/2010, 12:01

Thanks for the info (even though my laptop can handle stock maps). I'm sure there are more people here with older PC's/Laptops so I hope this works well for all of you. Anyway, when I play on an almost full server I start to get some FPS lag. Because of this I always put the settings one lower then is recommend (also do this in HL2). Works well for me and I'm not a graphics whore (I still play on the PS1) so it doesn't bother me Very Happy

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Post by Firestar on 9/2/2010, 19:53

So what does this do?
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Post by Firestar on 10/2/2010, 22:38

Would this work for L4D2?
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Post by Epps on 10/2/2010, 22:51

Firestar wrote:Would this work for L4D2?
I have no idea since I still haven't bought L4D2 since it is €50 which €20 more then I am willing to pay for it. But if it has the same engine I guess it would work. Just dont expect anything decent on a low end PC Wink

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Post by Firestar on 10/2/2010, 22:52

Okay, I won't expect anything decent on a low-end pc, as soon as I get one.

FYI my pc plays TF2 perfectly. It lags on L4D2 in some places, which can be annoying, so I was just wondering about this before I screwed up the game by putting it in.
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Post by Nicobbq on 10/2/2010, 22:53

I don't know if it would work, but why not give it a try.
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Post by Firestar on 10/2/2010, 22:54

Just did, and so far it seems to be performing better! I'll have to try some really laggy parts first tho...
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Post by Epps on 10/2/2010, 23:02

Firestar wrote:Okay, I won't expect anything decent on a low-end pc, as soon as I get one.

FYI my pc plays TF2 perfectly. It lags on L4D2 in some places, which can be annoying, so I was just wondering about this before I screwed up the game by putting it in.
Do I smell a bit of rage here? Anyway, not trying to say that your computer is crap. It's just since you asked and everything I assumed it. But now I think of it, a lot of PC's get FPS lag in L4D2.

This is why I like consoles better, you wont have to be afraid of a game not performing right. Then again, PC is cheaper to upgrade. I guess they both have their good and bad things...

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Post by Firestar on 10/2/2010, 23:11

Sgt Pepper wrote:
Firestar wrote:Okay, I won't expect anything decent on a low-end pc, as soon as I get one.

FYI my pc plays TF2 perfectly. It lags on L4D2 in some places, which can be annoying, so I was just wondering about this before I screwed up the game by putting it in.
Do I smell a bit of rage here? Anyway, not trying to say that your computer is crap. It's just since you asked and everything I assumed it. But now I think of it, a lot of PC's get FPS lag in L4D2.

This is why I like consoles better, you wont have to be afraid of a game not performing right. Then again, PC is cheaper to upgrade. I guess they both have their good and bad things...

Haha, no, I just felt like a slight rage right there.. Razz
And yeah, I really want a console, but my bitch of a mom won't even let me get one...
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Post by Young Greezy on 11/2/2010, 01:29

Firestar wrote:
Sgt Pepper wrote:
Firestar wrote:Okay, I won't expect anything decent on a low-end pc, as soon as I get one.

FYI my pc plays TF2 perfectly. It lags on L4D2 in some places, which can be annoying, so I was just wondering about this before I screwed up the game by putting it in.
Do I smell a bit of rage here? Anyway, not trying to say that your computer is crap. It's just since you asked and everything I assumed it. But now I think of it, a lot of PC's get FPS lag in L4D2.

This is why I like consoles better, you wont have to be afraid of a game not performing right. Then again, PC is cheaper to upgrade. I guess they both have their good and bad things...

Haha, no, I just felt like a slight rage right there.. Razz
And yeah, I really want a console, but my bitch of a mom won't even let me get one...

Whoa whoa whoa. Don't call your mom a bitch! She brought you into this world. And consoles are for teh noobz, you're above the rest by playing on a computer.
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Post by Eraserhead on 11/2/2010, 10:04

I have a Dell Inspiron dual core so i was expecting to be able to play TF2 on it but i can't get over the FPS lag. I get an FPS of about 40-50. But when graphics go really fast (like with scout or a lot of players) it drops down in the red on many times. Btw i think an FPS of about 40-50 is even not very well playable, on my normal PC i get a rate of 100+ and it's not even a high end pc. Just a cheap 512MB AGP video card. I think i tried everything before, dxlevel, lower all settings. I even made a ticket at steam which i will copy/paste here. Furthermore i recommend Gamebooster. This nifty program turns off all windows background processes so there is more RAM/CPU available for the game.

Here my entire dialogue with steam support, i think it will have interesting information on it for laptop users.

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1 « Message by you on Sun, 8th Nov 2009 3:24 pm »
1 « I have recently purchased a Dell Inspiron 1545 laptop. When i play TF2 it gives me a very bad FPS rate, even when i put the display settings to minimum. I can't believe this since this machine is a dual core and has 4GB memory. Only the display card is not for gaming. What can i do to get a reasonable fps of like 60-80. Right now it drops below 20 when i start making fast movements. I also have a problem with the resolution. My laptop has a widescreen resolution of 1366x768. But i can't set TF2 on a widescreen aspect ratio, it won't accept it. When i set it to 800x600 or 1024x768 the picture is stretched instead of displaying black vertical bars on the sides, how can i fix this? Could this also increase the fps? When i startup the game it tells me that the videocard does not appear in the steam database:
Windows Vista Mobile Intel 4 Series Express Chipset Family Version: 7.15.10.1637.


2 « Message by Rudy on Thu, 12th Nov 2009 6:53 pm »
Hello Dennis,

Thank you for contacting Steam Support.

Please follow the instructions linked below to run an msinfo32 report and attach it to this ticket so we may further diagnose the issue:

Title: How to run and submit MSINFO32 Reports
URL: http://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=1376-WTZN-9132

NOTE: Please make sure your Operating System is fully updated before running this report.
http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/en/default.asp


3 « Message by you on Mon, 30th Nov 2009 4:42 am »
Here is my msinfo document. I downloaded and installed all windows updates.


4 « Message by Rudy on Tue, 1st Dec 2009 7:39 pm »
Hello Dennis,

Poor FPS may occur when you run a game with video settings which exceed your system's capabilities.

Please reset your video settings to the defaults recommended for your system:

1) Open Steam to the Games/My Games menu

2) Right click the game you are having trouble with, select the Properties option

3) Select Launch Options and enter the following line:

-autoconfig

4) Run the game

The autoconfig option is intended to be used with games that use the Source and Goldsrc game engines. These are primarily games developed by Valve, but some third party games also use these engines.

If this does not correct the problem please let me know.


The information provided in this reply can also be found at the Steam Support Center:

Troubleshooting Gameplay and Performance
http://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=9257-TUJL-7421


5 « Message by you on Mon, 21st Dec 2009 11:23 am »
Hi i tried the default settings but i still have poor FPS. This notebook has a widescreen. Is it possible to improve the FPS by setting the lowest display resolution where i get vertical bars on the left and right side? Right now when i select 640x480 it is streched across the screen.

I also tried dxlevel 80 but that didn't help. What else can i try?

PS: I also have delayed sound. When i fire a shot i first see the shot and then hear it.


6 « Message by Rudy on Tue, 29th Dec 2009 9:15 pm »
Hello Dennis,

Please follow the link below for information:

Title: Updating Drivers
Link: http://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=6416-EYDH-0477

If that does not improve your issues, please send me the MSINFO Report again, as our system only keeps attachments for a certain amount of time and that time has passed.

Title: How to run and submit MSINFO32 Reports
URL: http://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=1376-WTZN-9132

NOTE: Please make sure your Operating System is fully updated before running this report.
http://v4.windowsupdate.microsoft.com/en/default.asp

If you have any further questions, please let us know.


7 « Message by you on Wed, 30th Dec 2009 10:29 am »
Hi,

A while ago i went to the Dell website (since i hava a Dell notebook) and i did an automatic driver update and it told me all my drivers were up to date. When running dxdiag i noticed i have an intel display chipset so i went to the intel driver update website: http://www.intel.com/support/detect.htm

This is the result i got. Should i try to install the intel driver instead of the Dell display driver?


Graphics Driver
Product Detected Mobile Intel®️ 4 Series Express Chipset Family
Current Driver Installed 7.15.0010.1637
A customized computer manufacturer driver is installed on your computer. The Intel Driver Update Utility is not able to update the driver. Installing a generic Intel driver instead of the customized computer manufacturer driver may cause technical issues. Contact your computer manufacturer for the latest driver for your computer.
Audio Driver for Intel®️ Desktop Board
Product Detected
Current Driver Installed
This device is unknown or unsupported. Please contact the manufacturer for possible updates. More information>>
Wireless Networking
Product Detected
Current Driver Installed
This device is unknown or unsupported. Please contact the manufacturer for possible updates. More information>>
Wired Networking
Product Detected
Current Driver Installed
This device is unknown or unsupported. Please contact the manufacturer for possible updates. More information>>


Attached the msinfo file. Vista is completely updated.


8 « Message by you on Wed, 30th Dec 2009 10:47 am »
We have a hired dedicated TF2 server at gameservers.com

Since the WAR update we have experienced users losing their new weapons whil in midgame. If they disconnect/reconnect they have their weapons again? Is this something we can fix ourselves via server config or is this a known bug?


9 « Message by Rudy on Wed, 30th Dec 2009 12:53 pm »
Hello Dennis,

When running a system with an integrated graphics controller, you should run the game in DirectX 7 mode*, with shader detail set to low, in windowed mode in order for the game to function properly. For more information please see the following FAQ:

Title: Reset Video Settings and Force a Video Mode
URL: http://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=1216-JMTZ-0860

Additionally, please see this guide:

Title: Intel Video Cards with Day of Defeat: Source, Portal, Team Fortress 2, and HL2: Episode 2
Link: http://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=6956-UGCB-7160

*Note: The Orange Box games do not support anything below DirectX 8.1. Left 4 Dead does not support anything below DirectX 9.0. If you can not run the game in these minimum modes, your video card does not meet the minimum system requirements to run the game.


10 « Message by you on Thu, 31st Dec 2009 5:42 am »
How can i run the game in Directx 7 mode? My game is from the orange box so this means i cannot run it in this mode?

Also my screen is 16:9. Which aspect ratio should i use in windowed mode, 16:9 or 4:3?


11 « Message by you on Thu, 31st Dec 2009 9:24 am »
I have now run the game in windowed mode with 800x600 resolution and low shader details. It seems to be an improvement. Only sometimes the fps still goes in the red.

Also my sound is still delayed so when i shoot i first see the shot and then hear it, how can i improve that?


12 « Message by Rudy on Thu, 7th Jan 2010 5:37 pm »
Hello Dennis,

Please follow the link below for information:

Title: Setting Game Launch Options
Link: http://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=1040-JWMT-2947

If you have any further questions, please let us know.


13 « Message by you on Sun, 10th Jan 2010 4:11 pm »
Hi,

Where in the launch options can i find a setting to improve my sound?

14 « Message by you on Sun, 10th Jan 2010 5:18 pm »
We have hired server at gameservers. We keep getting problems since the WAR update with loadout and skins not working. So the weapon unlocks don't work and skins don't work. Gameservers support don't have a clue why this is happening. I made a ticket earlier about this but it is not in my list of questions anymore?

here the ticket : [6743-RTOL-8845] [8649f2fa]

15 « Message by you on Mon, 11th Jan 2010 4:56 am »
I don't know why response 14 was appended to this ticket but it's another problem entirely.


16 « Message by Paul on Mon, 11th Jan 2010 4:48 pm »
Hello Dennis,

I have reviewed your ticket history and due to an error in ticket processing your two individual tickets were merged together.

As a result, I will be providing you with information on both of these requests.

Your first ticket, concerning performance running Team Fortress 2 on a Dell Inspiron 1545 laptop with a Mobile Intel 4 Series Express Chipset, cannot be resolved by Steam Support. As you indicated in your first message, this is not a "gaming" video adapter and is not supported for running this game. While games like TF2 may run on the laptop, there performance is not guaranteed and Steam Support cannot provide further information concerning this issue. Please note that system requirements are listed on the Store page of every game.

Your second ticket, concerning issues with a dedicated server following the WAR update cannot be resolved by Steam Support.

We do not offer support for server issues. You may, however, be able to find helpful information in the Dedicated Server forums:

Dedicated Server Discussions
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=509

Additionally, you may sign up for the Valve mailing lists for future announcements regarding server updates:

Title: Valve Mailing Lists
Link: http://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=9427-OPFH-2819

If you have any further questions, please let us know - we will be happy to assist you.


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Post by Epps on 11/2/2010, 10:51

I installed gamebooster and guess what, the only programs it wants to close are Steam and Firefox Preloader. Not very usefull if you ask me...

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Post by Eraserhead on 11/2/2010, 11:15

It also closed a lot of background processes, what you are talking about are just regular programs. Besides you can select which programs to close and not to close.

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