Admins Please Read

It seems that there is a wave of negative energy floating around and it seems everyone is asking to become an admin. I hope you understand that any comment I have made is not that I feel you guys are doing a poor job. I think you guys are doing a fine job I was just trying to make a suggestion and it looks like some other people agreed. Please withdraw my application for admin. It seems to be turning into a popularity contest that everyone wants to win and I just want to play the game. I do have a suggestion for voteban if you have a moment more to read it.

I think a lot of the reason so many people are asking to be admin is they want to have achieved more by becoming a member than the honor of putting {Pulp} in their name. Also I think some people are asking so they can play on the Pulp server without being griefed or micspammed. The voteban can achieve both these things with a little tweaking.

1. Allow the voteban votes to stick to a SteamID for maybe a 30 min period. This way if someone disconnects and reconnects to avoid the voteban they can still get banned.
2. Give members a bigger vote. If members votes count for maybe 2 or 3 votes we will have a little bit more say. It seems as if any given time that there has been a problem that someone wasn't kicked/banned there were a few members on the server at the time. Perhaps even add something that if 3 members voteban someone it doesn't need a full vote to ban them?

Sorry for the long post. I just wanted to make sure everyone knew that I don't have a problem with the current admins. And that I don't need to become one. I just want to have some fun on the server.

Thanks for the sobering post Jameless. I was planning to take a further look at how to optimize the voteban system. I haven't gotten any time. If you want to help me with it please check this link:

http://forums.alliedmods.net/showthread.php?p=633808

I would be happy to help out with this. I will look over all the sample code on that site and see if I can come up with any suggestions.

I did lots of reading on that forum and I found out a couple of things compared to what I was hoping for previously in this topic.

1. (Assuming the link you sent me to Custom Votes is what you are using) If you combine the Players Votes plugin with Custom Votes it has "voteban resilience" to prevent the ability to disconnect and reconnect to reset the vote. However I was reading that a conflict can occur if any vote names are the same in both plugins so you would have to change any duplicate vote names.

2. I couldn't find anyway in here to make any user's vote count more than another user. There are ways to make it so the vote only appears for certain people but that defeats the purpose of it. O well....wishful thinking I guess. I will keep my eyes open to see if a plugin pops up that allows this.

Thanks for reading my post and considering my suggestion.

But isn't 1 an improvement on itself?

Did you also see something in there about displaying the vote to all users as soon as someone does a voteban? So they only have to choose yes/no?

I think the players votes plugin was the one i wanted to install first but in the intro it said that it was unsupported and replaced by Custom Votes, so yeah, i installed that one.

Well the dev for Players Votes was abandoning major updates for it so he suggested that if you wanted to use a voting system that was still going to get major updates to use custom votes. I think because of this Custom Votes put a lot of the functionality in from Players Votes. However, it looks like 6 months ago or so the dev may have abandoned Custom Votes as well. Not sure if he added the voteban resilience though because I noticed that the griefers the other day were able to reset the vote by rejoining.

To get it to display to everyone you have to set the target to @all. For the yes/no set the type to confirm. If you want me to take a look at your cfg file shoot me an email with it or post it on here and I will take a look at it.

Hope this helps.

Which file would it be, none of these two contain general config but vote specific settings. If i rember correctly we should make our own cfg files or something.

core.vote.cfg
playervotes.cfg

The playervotes.cfg That should be where we can edit the options to achieve what we're looking for.

Take a look:

"Votes"
{
"voteban"
{
"title" "Ban #1 for 30 minutes?"
"type" "chat"
"command" "sm_ban_auto #1 30 \"Banned by vote.\""
"trigger"
{
"command" "voteban"
"notice" "%u voted to ban #1"
"percent" "70"
"count" "4"
}
"params"
{
"1" "player"
}
}
// "votekick"
// {
// "title" "Kick #1?"
// "type" "chat"
// "command" "sm_kick #1 \"Kicked by vote.\""
// "trigger"
// {
// "command" "votekick"
// "notice" "%u voted to kick #1"
// "percent" "70"
// "count" "4"
// }
// "params"
// {
// "1" "player"
// }
// }
"votemute"
{
"title" "Mute #1?"
"type" "chat"
"command" "sm_mute #1"
"trigger"
{
"command" "votemute"
"notice" "%u voted to mute #1"
"percent" "70"
"count" "4"
}
"params"
{
"1" "player"
}
}
"votealltalk"
{
"title" "Turn alltalk #1?"
"type" "chat"
"command" "sv_alltalk #1"
"trigger"
{
"command" "votealltalk"
"notice" "%u wants to turn alltalk #1"
"percent" "60"
}
"params"
{
"1" "onoff"
}
}
// "votemap"
// {
// "title" "Change map to #1?"
// "type" "chat"
// "command" "changelevel #1"
// "trigger"
// {
// "command" "votemap"
// "notice" "%u wants to change the map to #1"
// "delay" "300"
// "percent" "60"
// "count" "4"
// }
// "params"
// {
// "1" "mapcycle"
// }
// }
}

"voteban"
{
"title" "Ban #1 for 30 minutes?"
"type" "chat"
"command" "sm_ban_auto #1 30 \"Banned by vote.\""
"trigger"
{
"command" "voteban"
"notice" "%u voted to ban #1"
"percent" "70"
"count" "4"
}
"params"
{
"1" "player"
}
}

You can change type from chat to confirm. And add the option "target" "@all" just before the "trigger" option. Let me know if this works. As usual, and I am sure you do this, backup the cfg file before you edit it in case I am wrong. But from all the reading I did it says to do exactly this.

I changed it like this:

"Votes"
{
"voteban"
{
"title" "Ban #1 for 30 minutes?"
"type" "confirm"
"command" "sm_ban_auto #1 30 \"Banned by vote.\""
"target" "@all"
"trigger"
{
"command" "voteban"
"notice" "%u voted to ban #1"
"percent" "70"
"count" "4"
}
"params"
{
"1" "player"
}
}
// "votekick"
// {
// "title" "Kick #1?"
// "type" "confirm"
// "command" "sm_kick #1 \"Kicked by vote.\""
// "trigger"
// {
// "command" "votekick"
// "notice" "%u voted to kick #1"
// "percent" "70"
// "count" "4"
// }
// "params"
// {
// "1" "player"
// }
// }
"votemute"
{
"title" "Mute #1?"
"type" "confirm"
"command" "sm_mute #1"
"target" "@all"
"trigger"
{
"command" "votemute"
"notice" "%u voted to mute #1"
"percent" "70"
"count" "4"
}
"params"
{
"1" "player"
}
}
"votealltalk"
{
"title" "Turn alltalk #1?"
"type" "confirm"
"command" "sv_alltalk #1"
"target" "@all"
"trigger"
{
"command" "votealltalk"
"notice" "%u wants to turn alltalk #1"
"percent" "60"
}
"params"
{
"1" "onoff"
}
}
// "votemap"
// {
// "title" "Change map to #1?"
// "type" "chat"
// "command" "changelevel #1"
// "trigger"
// {
// "command" "votemap"
// "notice" "%u wants to change the map to #1"
// "delay" "300"
// "percent" "60"
// "count" "4"
// }
// "params"
// {
// "1" "mapcycle"
// }
// }
}

That looks perfect to me. Were you able to test it out yet? I will be playing in an hour or so if you need a Guinea pig to test it on.

No i did not have the chance to reload the plugin but i just restarted the server so it should work now.

Ok. I am pretty sure I have it figured out now. I need to know first exactly how you want the votes to work first. If you can find me on im or in a chat it would be a lot easier to go over. Let me know when you are available for this.