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Post by Jonesie|UKCS| 2/4/2010, 12:47

1.) Always have a full clip
2.) Reload constantly
3.) Only reload when running backwards
4.) Never reload and run forward
5.) When people chase you, run behind a corner, wait for them to follow you, then blast them twice in the head. Always works!
6.) Only run back to spawn when you're health is below 25!

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Post by vladmirbsl69 2/4/2010, 13:04

#3 and 4 kinda correspond.
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Post by DrManette 2/4/2010, 13:15

Jumping and Strafing are always your friend, and so is Cover. I always run behind walls to fake people out and jump from above to take out Soldiers and Demomen. If you use the FAN (yea yea, nice guy weapon blah blah blah) then that third jump is your best friend to avoid falling damage, get around the tower in orange, and get to far away (or high up) places.

Oh, and I love my ball!
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Post by vladmirbsl69 2/4/2010, 13:17

Spoken like a true FAN nice guy mannete.
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Post by Jonesie|UKCS| 7/4/2010, 05:59

I love jumping around the tower! My favorite ability!

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Post by Young Greezy 7/4/2010, 08:20

Why can't I reload after I've killed someone while running forward? I don't get it
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Post by Jonesie|UKCS| 7/4/2010, 10:34

So you dont bump into anybody whilst reloading, thats what makes you die quicker.

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Post by IPFreely 7/4/2010, 11:37

Fubar has yet to aproove this. Exclamation
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Post by Jonesie|UKCS| 7/4/2010, 11:40

He proves it too us all the time, but, we just dont know he does it.

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Post by Cake 3/5/2010, 08:43

2.) Reload constantly
3.) Only reload when running backwards
4.) Never reload and run forward

You might leave the reload constantly out, or add some more information on which situations you should reload constantly Rolling Eyes
-Always reload when the area is clear
-Always keep moving, scouts should keep moving
-Try jumping around while shooting, everyone will have a hard time hitting you

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Post by Eraserhead 3/5/2010, 09:07

Also something i tested together with Miht and Furgus:

The scout runs slower when running backwards as opposed to forwards!

That's why if another scout comes at you with a bat swinging and you are running backwards trying to shoot him he will eventually hit you!
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Post by Furgus 3/5/2010, 15:19

Yeah that was fun. But Fubar still hasn't responded to this. I wonder why???
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Post by SNghost 3/5/2010, 19:13

WHEN UNDER FIRE DONT JUST RUN STRAIGHT BACK!!! when im spy i just go behind scouts then they come to me.....then BACKSTAB
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Post by miht 3/5/2010, 19:53

Cpt Jonesie wrote:1.) Always have a full clip
2.) Reload constantly
3.) Only reload when running backwards
4.) Never reload and run forward
5.) When people chase you, run behind a corner, wait for them to follow you, then blast them twice in the head. Always works!
6.) Only run back to spawn when you're health is below 25!
I run forward when i reload. i chase.

Also. Protip, when you are reloading jump one side then double jump to other side. confuses people (: and if you run out of ammo on shotgun, don't reload when you are fighting someone. pull out your pistol.
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Post by Lord Zurkov 3/5/2010, 20:13

miht wrote:and if you run out of ammo on shotgun, don't reload when you are fighting someone. pull out your pistol.
Although it's not a bad idea to reload one shot if you're very confident you can bring them down with it. If you don't have a pistol (or you want to conserve ammo) and you're pretty close, use your bat instead.
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Post by miht 4/5/2010, 01:01

Lord Zurkov wrote:
miht wrote:and if you run out of ammo on shotgun, don't reload when you are fighting someone. pull out your pistol.
Although it's not a bad idea to reload one shot if you're very confident you can bring them down with it. If you don't have a pistol (or you want to conserve ammo) and you're pretty close, use your bat instead.
never bring out your bat. unless u have horrid aim. but pistol packs a punch. and at close range theres not really a way you can miss. and if u reload one shot at a atime is stupid. if u reload you jump around him and reload most or all. thats just my opionion and it has helped me dominate you FOOOLS Razz Jks jks but yeah thats just my way of playing scout. =P
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Post by UberLord 4/5/2010, 01:32

The only reason not to have a pistol is if you have crit-a-cola. If you learn how to use it properly, it cna be a very destructive weapon. ANYWAY, pistol is my favorite scout weapon. With 20 damage a hit at close range, it's packing some serious power.
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Post by vladmirbsl69 4/5/2010, 16:13

20*12=240 dmg. if you hit close range all 12 then your taking out every class except heavy not fully over healed
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Post by Cake 4/5/2010, 18:26

miht wrote:
Cpt Jonesie wrote:1.) Always have a full clip
2.) Reload constantly
3.) Only reload when running backwards
4.) Never reload and run forward
5.) When people chase you, run behind a corner, wait for them to follow you, then blast them twice in the head. Always works!
6.) Only run back to spawn when you're health is below 25!
I run forward when i reload. i chase.

Also. Protip, when you are reloading jump one side then double jump to other side. confuses people (: and if you run out of ammo on shotgun, don't reload when you are fighting someone. pull out your pistol.

I reload whenever I think it's necessary, even if I have 1 shot left I reload. It really depends on the situation (e.g. in a building or an open area). If you know you're skilled enough to be unpredictable when jumping back and forth + reloading,(double protip) you can also try to shoot whilst jumping. Although you have to practice a lot, it will definitely pay off. This will make you god-like.
Apart from that, you can confuse heavies by shooting them in their back first (if you aren't using the FaN) and jumping over them, shoot them and repeat. Run circles around them, do whatever you like. The only problem is that if you get cought in his/her line of fire, you'll definitely die in 1-1.5 seconds. So watch out!

Use speed and the double-jump ability to your advantage. Keep jumping around unpredictably when you see snipers aiming for yer head, or at least dodge their fully loaded 100%edness ownage bodyshot which everybody hates so much.
If you play orange_x3 a lot, you should see me play scout, or spectate me. I have an unusual surprise tactic which owns pretty much.
Scouts shouldn't go solo capping unless they know they can take on certain enemies, for example snipers can't do much close range other than crit-gutting someone (which is quite painful because you fly to the other end of the map if you get critted by kukri). Soldiers will rape you on very close range, you have to keep some distance so you can respond correctly to the (c)rockets while annoying the poop out of soldiers.
As stated before, run around a lot. If you see a solo heavy, get his attention and act as if you're going somewhere to go around (so he'll think he can outsmart you and just go the same way but on the other side of a wall/building/whatever) then go back and shoot him. Run back before he's ready to shoot you and repeat.

Now, maybe this might not work for you but it certainly does for me. Atm, I have a k/d ratio of 2.67. If I didn't play other classes than the scout and play seriously constantly, I would probably have a k/d of at least 3.5 or sumthin like that. Aaaand the first couple days I played on the pulp server, I didn't really have tactics with the scout.. I just had a habit of doing things with every class (like with keeping distance and stuffs like that) untill now while I'm thinking about it.
If you want to pwn more with the scout, just contact me or ask stuff... I'll tell you more about it. It's kind of late here (0:20) and I don't want to write much anymore Razz


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Post by Eraserhead 4/5/2010, 21:52

If you write a full article i can sticky it for you. maybe it's just a matter of copy pasting stuff you have written here earlier.

Another protip from me: if you approach your enemy from behind just wait with shooting until you almost bonk! into him. The closer the better. meatshots ftw!
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Post by Cake 5/5/2010, 05:08

Lord Zurkov wrote:
miht wrote:and if you run out of ammo on shotgun, don't reload when you are fighting someone. pull out your pistol.
Although it's not a bad idea to reload one shot if you're very confident you can bring them down with it. If you don't have a pistol (or you want to conserve ammo) and you're pretty close, use your bat instead.

You shouldn't go in with your bat if you have less than 60hp, unless you're VERY confident. Most of the times, retreating and healing yourself is the best thing to do, even if you know you can kill them with 1 more shot. It naturally also depends on which class you're fighting against.
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Post by FUBAR 5/5/2010, 06:56

1.) Always have a full clip
2.) Reload constantly
3.) Only reload when running backwards
4.) Never reload and run forward
5.) When people chase you, run behind a corner, wait for them to follow you, then blast them twice in the head. Always works!
6.) Only run back to spawn when you're health is below 25!

this could be my words , infact they are ... don't forget to credit me Jonesie,

only on point 3 , if you running backwards , you will be slower , so running in the opposite direction is a lot faster , in other words : get out the dangerzone.
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Post by Cake 5/5/2010, 07:34

5.) When people chase you, run behind a corner, wait for them to follow you, then blast them twice in the head. Always works!

It works but you shouldn't go in tight spots where soldiers can crocket you to pieces or where pyros can burn you to ashes or heavies can make swiss cheese out of you or where engi's can bash your skull with a critwrench or where cyclops can decap you merciless or where snipers can do some good ol' chop chop or where a scout with the FaN can make you a piece of nature after double-shot cornering you and etc etc etc. bounce

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Post by dumbasscus 20/8/2010, 00:47

What do you do when your aim sucks? I've been trying to get better at this, and there is always that guy or guys (scouts) that kick my ass regardless. Isabella being one example. Any other pulp member being a crapload more.
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Post by Young Greezy 20/8/2010, 02:38

You play quake live to improve your tracking and focus on tracking more, not twitch shots.
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